Sunday, October 16, 2005

Time Magazine, Online

What triggered the events of yesterday? Time's Chris Maag takes a first look.


Blogger Micah said...

What triggered the events yesterday?

Stupidity, plain and simple.

Absolutely, no excuses can be made. Period.

11:24 PM  
Blogger liberal_dem said...

Stupidity, plain and simple.

...such a succinct answer to such a complex problem.

10:25 AM  
Blogger Lisa Renee said...

That article isn't even accurate. There was no permit and the only one from Roanoke is Bill White, most of the NSM who were here Saturday were from Ohio and Michigan. Nor is the NSM headquarted in Roanoke, they are in Minnesota.

Szych who is reported at firing at the crowds was not even the one involved with the problems, it was his father who remained there and is the one who started firing his gun when the house was attacked.

People wonder why there is so much confusion? Because some of these reporters are obviously too lazy to bother to get the facts.

11:37 AM  
Blogger Lindsay said...

I was in Washington D.C. this weekend. The last time I was in D.C. was was with you (among others). We went to the Holocaust Museum. Imagine the conversation I had about Toledo with others in and around this National Museum. On Sunday, I went to Arlington National Cemetery; there I encountered this:

Kennedy Speech on Martin Luther King, Jr.'s Death

April 4, 1968, Indianapolis, Indiana

I have bad news for you, for all of our fellow citizens, and people who love peace all over the world, and that is that Martin Luther King was shot and killed tonight.

Martin Luther King dedicated his life to love and to justice for his fellow human beings, and he died because of that effort.

In this difficult day, in this difficult time for the United States, it is perhaps well to ask what kind of a nation we are and what direction we want to move in. For those of you who are black -- considering the evidence their evidently is that there were white people who were responsible -- you can be filled with bitterness, with hatred, and a desire for revenge. We can move in that direction as a country, in great polarization -- black people amongst black, white people amongst white, filled with hatred toward one another.

Or we can make an effort, as Martin Luther King did, to understand and to comprehend, and to replace that violence, that stain of bloodshed that has spread across our land, with an effort to understand with compassion and love.

For those of you who are black and are tempted to be filled with hatred and distrust at the injustice of such an act, against all white people, I can only say that I feel in my own heart the same kind of feeling. I had a member of my family killed, but he was killed by a white man. But we have to make an effort in the United States, we have to make an effort to understand, to go beyond these rathe difficult times.

My favorite poet was Aeschylus. He wrote: "In our sleep, pain which cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart until, in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom through the awful grace of God."

What we need in the United States is not division; what we need in the United States is not hatred; what we need in the United States is not violence or lawlessness; but love and wisdom, and compassion toward one another, and a feeling of justice toward those who still suffer within our country, whether they be white or they be black.

So I shall ask you tonight to return home, to say a prayer for the family of Martin Luther King, that's true, but more importantly to say a prayer for our own country, which all of us love -- a prayer for understanding and that compassion of which I spoke.

We can do well in this country. We will have difficult times; we've had difficult times in the past; we will have difficult times in the future. It is not the end of violence; it is not the end of lawlessness; it is not the end of disorder.

But the vast majority of white people and the vast majority of black people in this country want to live together, want to improve the quality of our life, and want justice for all human beings who abide in our land.

Let us dedicate to ourselves to what the Greeks wrote so many years ago: to tame the savageness of man and make gentle the life of this world.

Let us dedicate ourselves to that, and say a prayer for our country and for our people.

Say a Pray for Toledo. Thank you for your leadership.

1:48 PM  
Blogger Frank said...

One of my favorite speeches by RFK. I thought of that speech on Saturday afternoon - and I appreciate you contributing it here. Thank you.

8:29 PM  
Blogger !@#$%^& said...

Just wanted to clarify some incomplete/innacurate information that appeared in a Toledo Blade letter to the editor. A resident of Lima stated that a KKK rally was prevented by the city's request of payment for protection. Many have asked if similar measures could be taken to recoup Toledo's expenses, and to discourage a return visit. If the group were to request special accomodations for their visit, we could bill them accordingly, but if no such request is made, financial responsibility cannot be forced upon them. (U.S. Supreme Court - 1992 - Forsyth County v. Nationalist Movement) Does this seem wrong? In the case of Neo-nazis - yes, but consider this - if I wanted to carry a sign in front of government center stating - "Frank Szollosi Is An Idiot", Frank could stop me from doing it simply by having the city charge me a $1000 fee for police protection to make sure I would not be assaulted by Frank's loyal supporters. Putting a price tag on free speech will make free speech available only to those who can afford it. Our nations history has taught us that those most badly in need of free speech are most often those who cannot afford to pay for it.

9:48 AM  

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